I'm with you now Joe. Yes, sorry mate I misunderstood. Good idea, I didn't think of thatjoeNeal_71 wrote:No, what I mean is use crimps to tie off your snood instead of using knots. That way you can make your hook length any size you want with 100% accuracytrucker5774 wrote:Thank you all for the advice..............it is what I actually do when I build a rig. Thanks for the PM John (it was was for a phone chat so obviously the number was not posted for the world to see on the internet)
I should have been clearer........It was on already built rigs that I have the problem. Being lazy and not replacing or rebuilding the whole rig, I sometime just replace the line to the hook (that's where the problem is) It's not the end of the world with an impact shield as I always build them so they have adjustment.
Thanks to everyone for the fast response and advice.
So ............is there a way or a knot which can be tied to a require length..........in not its no problem, just thought I might be missing something obvious
Hook length.........how to?
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Re: Hook length.........how to?
If you're having to replace your snoods because thay are worn, how are your rig main bodies? They are more important from a saftey point of view.
I think the Palmor knot should tie to the exact length of the 1st loop and also the Binimi Twist.
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I will have a play with those knots thanks, spud. I was replacing the snood because it had become a bit "curly" having had a few small fishes on and a couple of tangles/twists........................yeah, yeah........I'm a lazy sodspudgun wrote:If you're having to replace your snoods because thay are worn, how are your rig main bodies? They are more important from a saftey point of view.
I think the Palmor knot should tie to the exact length of the 1st loop and also the Binimi Twist.
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Re: Hook length.........how to?
I use a 6" length of 1/2"" alloy rod
which is slightly tapered and rounded off at one end
and a 3 ft wood batten with nails at the required lengths - allowing for the knots to tighten.
OK - butt = I wrap the snood length round it instead of my finger, as I tie the knot so that there is a "constant" size of "slippage" as I tighten the knot
Like 1/2 " bar makes the knot 'slide' down to make the snood a 'known' 1 1/2" longer -
1/2" gives you room to make the knot - I tried 1/4" but it's too small to work with comfortably
Hope that makes sense
and a 3 ft wood batten with nails at the required lengths - allowing for the knots to tighten.
OK - butt = I wrap the snood length round it instead of my finger, as I tie the knot so that there is a "constant" size of "slippage" as I tighten the knot
Like 1/2 " bar makes the knot 'slide' down to make the snood a 'known' 1 1/2" longer -
1/2" gives you room to make the knot - I tried 1/4" but it's too small to work with comfortably
Hope that makes sense
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Re: Hook length.........how to?
Agree, this is what I do as well. I hate crimps and don't use them except for tope/conger rigs.Big Kev wrote:If you use sliding stop knots instead of crimps you can easily alter things....i tie my sliders pretty tight so they can be moved if you want but still stay in place when casting....they are never as secure once they`ve been moved so i just add another right next to the original for extra security.
Its only way (well cept for SRT's) to compensate as line stretches during use without weakening the line.
Additionally, if original stop knot becomes too loose, takes 30 seconds to tie a second stop knot to stick behind it, just using whatever 15-20lb line you got in your kit - doesn't need to be a power gum.
edit* Doh, didnt spot that Kev had already suggested that, oh well, reinforcement to the idea.
Finally, if you're hook lengths are getting worn, i'd advise going to 20-30lb hook lengths for winter fishing - absolutely no point using anything lighter when clean ground fishing - much fewer tangles, easier to untangle if you do get a knot and much more abrasion resistant.
If you want a rotten bottom then 30lb straight through, with 20-25lb leaders tied with a weaker knot, such as a blood.
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Re: Hook length.........how to?
[quote="gmonkman
If you want a rotten bottom then 30lb straight through, with 20-25lb leaders tied with a weaker knot, such as a blood.[/quote]
Sounds a bit dodgy to me 20-25lb leader

If you want a rotten bottom then 30lb straight through, with 20-25lb leaders tied with a weaker knot, such as a blood.[/quote]
Sounds a bit dodgy to me 20-25lb leader
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Sounds a bit dodgy to me 20-25lb leaderBrian900 wrote:[quote="gmonkman
If you want a rotten bottom then 30lb straight through, with 20-25lb leaders tied with a weaker knot, such as a blood.
i wont be fishing anywhere near them
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that is ok for a rotten bottom rig, as you arnt gunna be whacking it outbenh wrote:FishingFreakJack wrote:Sounds a bit dodgy to me 20-25lb leaderBrian900 wrote:[quote="gmonkman
If you want a rotten bottom then 30lb straight through, with 20-25lb leaders tied with a weaker knot, such as a blood.![]()
i wont be fishing anywhere near them
I guess the reference is not to a shock leader but to a terminal line to the sinker
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that is ok for a rotten bottom rig, as you arnt gunna be whacking it outbenh wrote:FishingFreakJack wrote:Sounds a bit dodgy to me 20-25lb leaderBrian900 wrote:[quote="gmonkman
If you want a rotten bottom then 30lb straight through, with 20-25lb leaders tied with a weaker knot, such as a blood.![]()
i wont be fishing anywhere near them
i wouldnt you could serously surt somebody
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winter fishing sucks
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Re: Hook length.........how to?
Surt somebodyBig Kev wrote:Surt somebody![]()
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Re: Hook length.........how to?
Big Kev wrote:Surt somebody![]()
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